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    @TestDummyCO  How is it poorly written? I liked the almost outline format. It was easy to read, unlike so many books that take pages and pages to say something that could be put into a paragraph or two. 😄

    I could relate because I’ve observed (and fortunately didn’t experience too much of) what I found in the book. It was nice to know I wasn’t the only person who observed what she wrote.

    It’s not her opinion because she gave examples to prove what she said was generally true.  If she had only said: “women are the stronger sex”, then it would have been her opinion (and she would have been generalizing, which is usually not a good thing).

    Why don’t you agree with what she wrote?

    The author didn’t say we all don’t have talents/skills to offer the world.

    She also didn’t mention anywhere in the book about anyone being superior. She didn’t even use that word. (I know, I just did a search and find – and didn’t find it. 😄)

    A lot of guys think they’re superior, and act accordingly. That’s one of the problems between the sexes. There are too many men who think they’re more entitled, and think women are to be used for their own pleasure.

    #202301

    @schala: I’m basing what I said on what I’ve observed (long before I ever read this book). That’s why I liked this book so much.  It confirmed what I’ve seen all my life. It’s not just the author’s opinion because she gives examples to confirm/validate what she said, to confirm that women are generally stronger than men (even though we’re almost brainwashed, as a society, into believing that women are the weaker sex). So I’m glad this book was written, to confirm that we’re not the weaker sex, that we’re not second class citizens that should be treated like property to be used and abused.

    I don’t know whether you’re a guy or not but I wouldn’t be surprised if you are, based on what you wrote. Because what you wrote is something I’d expect a man to say.  But I never said you were a guy.  I said:

    @schala: Is it possible that you’re a guy (who’s pretending to be a woman so you can join this forum)?

    Also, when you distorted what I said (when you wrote):

    …especially because you think I’m a guy…

    , you exhibited a characteristic that a lot of men have.

    It’s easy to “wrap my mind around” facts. The fact is, men and women aren’t equal. We’re not the same.  Women (overall) conduct themselves better than men. As I said, in this thread, how many women do you know who go around molesting children and sexually harassing people? Yet hardly a week goes by that some male celebrity/public figure isn’t accused of/charged with inappropriate sexual behavior. You can ask any cop. They’ll tell you that men break the law more than women.
    And the list goes on and on.

    As the book said: “… as always, the personality traits mentioned in this book are generalizations – there are always exceptions to the rule and ultimately everyone is an individual.”

    Gender does play a part in this. I know nurses who work in neonatal intensive care and they confirm what the book said: premature girls have a better survival rate than premature boys.

    This book (and the women on this thread) aren’t male-bashing. We aren’t putting men down/criticizing them because they may not be as strong as women above the neck; mentally, psychologically, etc. or even physiologically  (scientists say that women are generally able to fight off disease better than men). It’s just that we as a society need to realize what was explained in the book.  But there is still a general perception that women are somehow less than men, inferior to men, not worthy of basic human rights as men, etc.

    The book doesn’t say that women are “better” than men. It only says that:
    – women generally have better memories;
    and
    – women generally have better manners;
    (which I, and every woman and most men I’ve spoken to about this, have seen over and over again).

    Men, too often, either aren’t strong enough (or don’t want) to control themselves. That’s why so many men lose their temper, abuse their wives and children, commit crimes, etc.

    I’m just stating facts. Don’t take my word for it, ask professionals. So how can I be a zealot? And what does this have to do with religion?

    People can be a assertive, direct, and decisive without being aggressive. Aggression is a sign of weakness, of fear of losing control/an argument. And unfortunately, too many men use their weakness (aggression) to get their way.

    All I saw in this topic are women criticizing men, but not once did I see someone criticizing women…

    Well, that’s a switch! I usually hear men criticizing women but not criticizing men for doing a lot more!

    No one is born perfect (and no one is saying otherwise). So once again, you’re saying something that isn’t true/accurate. Are ya sure you’re not a guy, cos that’s what I notice a lot of guys do. :-))

    But because you have misquoted me, unfairly accused me, etc., I can’t help but think you might be an argumentative troublemaker. (I’ve found quite a few on social media/forums.  I suspect some people don’t have anything more important to do with their lives.) So if you respond to my post, I won’t read it. My lack of reply won’t indicate my agreement with what you have said.

    #202244

    @rabbithabit:  Men usually have upper body strength but other than that, I think women are usually stronger (even physically, at least according to the book).

    I think, generally speaking, a woman can control a man (due to her intellectual strength) when he’s not an abuser/controller/manipulator himself.

    The problem is when one person (either a man or a woman) tries to control the other.  In a healthy relationship, neither should try to control, boss, bully, etc. the other.

    But too often, men aren’t strong enough to control their own behavior so they try to control those around them, to make up for their lack of self control.

    This is one of the reasons so many women in the world have to be covered from head to foot when they go outside their home: because men, too often, can’t/don’t exercise self control!

    #202226

    @cindiaugustine: I hope you’re right, that men will become more comfortable with accepting that all humans are equal, regardless of race, gender, etc.  But after reading this book, I wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t happen.

    There was a “women’s liberation movement” (where women broke free of social restrictions) in the 1970’s but there still seems to be so much abuse from men, so many decades later. A lot of prejudice is passed down from generation to generation (which would explain why all humans aren’t treated equally and respected).

    As someone said (when asked what can be done regarding the weaknesses that so men seem to have), the best thing to do is; inform young women so they’ll know what characteristics to look for/recognize when dating, looking for a significant other, and avoid having children with men who probably wouldn’t make good fathers, who would possibly raise children in a dysfunctional home environment. Women would then possibly chose emotionally healthy men to have a relationship with (which is better for the woman) and hopefully those men would make better fathers. Their children would hopefully grow up in a loving family where they could be emotionally and psychologically nurtured and wouldn’t be so abusive toward their wives/girlfriends and children.

    In all fairness, the book does mention that men have upper body strength and that the examples given (where men are “weaker”) is generally speaking.

    What traits have men developed into strengths over the centuries through evolution and social constructs besides what is mentioned in the book?

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    #202138

    Dogs are social little creatures, aren’t they? 😄  And they’re adorable. 💓

    I use Facebook to give feedback and to read funny political comments/memes.

     

    #202136

    @schala:  I agree. We should cooperate together. The problem is, there are too many individuals in this world who are selfish, who don’t cooperate but rather, only look out for themselves. And I’m sorry to say but it seems that more men fit this description than women do.  And this book confirmed this. When I was reading it, I was thinking: “Yeah, this is what I observe almost on a daily basis.” Yes, of course there are many men who aren’t prejudice, who don’t use women then toss them aside, etc., but there are too many who do.

    This book doesn’t go against men. It just points out characteristics that men often represent.

    Overall, women are better/stronger. It’s not a complex. The book gives examples throughout it why this is true.  It has nothing to do with feminism or downgrading the male species. It’s just facts.  And statistics prove it. For example, women commit less crimes than men.  (How many women do you know rape men and children?)

    Women have tried to live harmoniously with men since the beginning of time. But there won’t be harmony as long as so many men feel they’re entitled to abuse, harass, bully, etc. women, expect more from women than men, criticize women for doing a quarter of what men do (if women do anything at all), etc.  In other words, treat women unfairly.

    I think it’s a given that we mustn’t neglect this “weakness” in men and boys. That’s what I got from the book.
    The book mentions: “…mothers will (sadly) often raise their sons to be tough and strong and not show emotion…” And of course, when mothers do this, they just make the situation worse.
    And even the last line of the book says: “…in the hopes that it will eventually bring about change for the better, for everyone.”

    I’ve read all the opinions on this thread and they are neither unfair nor prejudiced against men. The ladies are just explaining what they’ve also observed.

    If any woman has had bad experiences with men abusing their power and/or their upper body strength (and I think you’d be hard pressed to find any woman who hasn’t been abused/sexually harassed by a guy at some point in her life), their experience just confirms what the book says.

    Every woman I’ve spoken to agrees with and can relate to what is written in this book. It’s guys who seem to have a problem with it (and I can understand why). Some men have responded quite drastically (and if the situation were reversed, I can just hear a guy telling a woman: “Oh, don’t get so emotional”) but yet a guy can react so harshly (for example, when Steven says: “…I hope you die, Josette!” to the author, at free-ebooks.net/psychology/Are-Men-the-Weaker-Sex) and no one says anything.

    The book specifically states that what is written doesn’t apply to all men. This generalization; “all men”, “all women”, etc. is a characteristic I find more in men, than in women. You yourself have made this generalization. Is it possible that you’re a guy (who’s pretending to be a woman so you can join this forum)?

    #202065

    Tis the season (for summer footwear). 🙂  We can always use shoes, eventually. 😉

    I think it’s a good idea to buy something when we see it. That’s what I do when I’m in a store. Because if I don’t buy it then, the next time I go into the store, it might not be there anymore or (horror of horrors 😄), the price has gone up – for the same item! grrrr! lol

    Think of the money you save by not having a boyfriend/husband anymore. You can use that money for cute footwear. 🙂
    Maybe it’s your way of making up for when you didn’t feel comfortable buying shoes (because of your ex’s criticism). Now that you don’t have that negative element in your life anymore, you have the freedom to do what you want, to compensate, to create a balance once again. In time, when you’ve healed from the past, you’ll find you may not need to create that “happiness” by buying those shoes. (That’s may be why you gravitate towards open-toe shoes as opposed to closed-toe shoes – freedom.) 💜

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    #202041

    I shouldn’t laugh but I can’t help but find it amusing when a man is afraid of a woman and cowers away like a frightened mouse. 😄

    The female consultant was probably fair, respectful and friendly towards you because you were competent and she appreciated your good work ethic. 😉

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    #202040

    I’m so sorry to hear that you have to put up with constant criticism at work, hon. How annoying! It’s hard for us to enjoy our job when we’re bullied. Those men are possibly inadequate in their job performance and are trying to take the spotlight away from them and focus it on others. (If only they knew it doesn’t work – at least by those who know better.) 😉

    Helping others is a sign of strength and your team is very fortunate to have you. I love to work with people such as yourself. 🙂 It makes the work environment so much nicer, I’m happier, and more productive. I try my best but it’s nice to know someone has my back, someone’s willing to help when I need it. I wish everyone could co-exist in such a harmonious way. The world would be a better, more peaceful place (instead of people fighting and competing with each other, trying to outdo each other and not caring whom they hurt in the process)!
    They try to take credit for your work?! How rude!! 😒 I’m glad you don’t let them get away with that!!!

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    #202039

    I know exactly what you mean, hon. 🙂

    It’s easier to be stubborn (“my way or the highway”), selfish (“I want it!”), greedy (“and you can’t have any”), and commit acts of violence (“I’ll punch your lights out if you don’t do what I say”)
    than it is to be accommodating (“let’s see if we can compromise”), kind (“maybe we can share”), generous (“would you like some”), and peaceful (“let’s negotiate”).

    It takes strength to exercise self-control to not act on our impulses. A lot of women will do what is harder but what is best in a situation. 😌

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    #202038

    It reminds me of the mini-series “Cranford” where a lady said to another woman: “He said you were the equal of a man. And I corrected him. No woman is the equal of a man. She is his superior in every single case.” 😉 I thought it was priceless! ❤️

    Smashwords (and the author) provide the ebook for free. 🙂

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    #201898

    We’re not supposed to call people “stupid”.  Jesus said so. 😉

    #201890

    I feel a smile comin’ on. – lol

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    #201889

    In a way, it’s kind of sad that so many men are jealous of women and feel threatened by us.  If they could only judge us as individuals instead of having the mentality of “women this” and “women that”, I’m sure they could find happiness but (as it says in the book) there are too many men who (if they’re hurt by one woman) go against all women and judge us all the same.

    Ultimately, it’s their loss but innocent women (too often) have to pay for men’s emotional weakness (because women are mistreated by men who’ve been hurt by a woman in his past).

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    #201879

    Thank you!

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